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Alkaron
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#1 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 09:09 - Edited
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I cant get this beauty to run on native hardware. It crashes after the load is done and the screen blinks and my Amiga gurus (8000002 or 80000004). I have tried it with both setpatch and oxyron (and without them).

When trying to run without startup-sequence I get this errormessage and it wont even load.

Can't open version 0 of datatypes.library

Oh hardware?

Amiga 1200/060@80mhz with 32 mb ram.
ubik
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#2 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 15:00
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Hardware... You need more memory. I'm not sure how it works with 48mb but I think should be enough.
Alkaron
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#3 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 16:39 - Edited
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Yup! I have notice this! Hoping for a 32 mb fix, but I guess it needs too much ram .. Lucky for me I have another 060 card with 160 mb ram.. but with 50mhz .. Would have been nice to try it out with 80mhz
sp_
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#4 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 17:15
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I had some problems in UAE as well. Without JIT it worked(68020/fpu). But it ran a little slow.

Nice demo. Compowinner for me.
ubik
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#5 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 20:34
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Hmmm on my old athlon xp2500 I have about 100-150 fps (winaue 0.9.92). Try my config: http://www.media-d.com/!fora/config.uae
z5_
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#6 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 20:40
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@Ubik and the Elude team: you did an amazing job with the demo. Keep it up!
ubik
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#7 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 20:56
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Thanks :) I really glad you like our demo. I hope, the next one will be much better - maybe good enough to win BP09 ;)
Kalms
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#8 - Posted: 25 Mar 2008 23:59
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Hmm. We'll see about that.
kiero
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#9 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 00:12
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I will release "more final" version this week (two days should be enough). Some minor fixes. But it will be hard to make it run on 32mb. I can make it to 36mb currently but no more obvious cleanups left. Maybe bit later when i will not get sick looking at the source:)
z5_
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#10 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 00:39
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Hmm. We'll see about that.

That's the spirit :o)
Toffeeman
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#11 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 00:51
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Kalms: I thought maybe Starstruck was going to be your last demo so I'm glad to hear this comment ! What do you think of Eludes demo ?
Frog
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#12 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 11:54
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Wonderful demo !

Nice to see such amazing prods at Breakpoint 08 !
z5_
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#13 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 12:06
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@Ubik: Just saw your comments on Pouet and doubts about not getting first place and wondering if it's really worth it. While i can understand frustration, the demo has received massive positive response. It has found a place in the heart of many demoscene lovers. In the end, i hope that this will be the most important part that you remember from BP2008.

I'm sure i'm not alone when i say that you created a piece of art. As long as you find enjoyment in creating demos (the creative process), i really do hope that you'll continue.
kiero
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#14 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 12:08
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Some of you know the situation about whole amiga democompo, some may not, but to clear things up a bit we decided to post this short note (also on pouet)

How was it, everyone knows. We are not hiding it - first thing after the results were announced was huge confusion - "what just happened?". Later the prizegiving and swapping it with the Drifters - something which we probably shouldn't do. After all, it was them who won the competition in fair way. Admiting that our production was a better one, absolutely ok. Nice gesture. Swapping the prizes... not. Unfortunately being on stage and the fast pace of things happening doesn't help you in thinking. Best prize for us are the comments on varius forums, and thats all that should matter.
One thing that this whole situation made us think about was "is it still worth it". Or maybe amiga scene standing between c64 and pc quality just gave up and chose first way? Maybe, maybe... Lots of dilemas and stupid thinking. One thing is sure, next year we will meet at BP again. Demomaking is just too much fun (except moments before deadline:) to gave it up so easily just because of this situation.

Michal 'kiero' Wozniak
Przemyslaw 'ubik' Kuca
Tomasz 'chaser' Gierygowski

I'm still not sure it's needed, but shouldn't hurt:)
z5_
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#15 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 12:36
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Best prize for us are the comments on varius forums, and thats all that should matter.

Nothing to add.

Btw. why did you guys decide to start a new group instead of releasing under the Madwizards label?
Alkaron
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#16 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 13:49
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@All (a bit OT) .. Look what happened in the PC 64k compo, it wasnt the most techical demo that won (it would prolly have won the 4k compo too)! It was a Speccy Z80 demo wich run with a stripped down emulator. The code itself aint very advanced and the effects few, it was as a "concept" they won, not because of the best eyecandy.

Drifters maybe won because of the concept and I guess even TBL would got their fingers chopped here..

Well.. All three top3 demos could have won. Still it is a blessing and nice gesture from Drifters.. Lets focus on the future now!

AMIIIIIIGAAAAAAAAA!
Kalms
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#17 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 13:56
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kiero/ubik/chaser: Swapping the prizes was exactly the right thing to do. You heard the people in the hall -- the general consensus of people at BP was that the voting process had failed. There was no time to have people re-cast votes, so the second best way to give proper homage to you was for Drifters to offer you the 1st place prize.

If you sum up the vote points in the individual categories, you will find that there were 12000 points distributed in the PC demo compo and 4000 points in the Amiga demo compo. This means that a considerable number of people didn't vote in the Amiga demo compo. That's part of the reason why the voting gave the results it did.
extralife
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#18 - Posted: 26 Mar 2008 15:55 - Edited
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Thx to the Elude team for creating such a nice amiga demo. True winner ? Sure, but this has happened before, so big thumbs up to Drifters crew for showing their appreciation for your great work and I too very much liked stingy' and crews nice little trip back in time ;) Great times they where :) and I for one still get that old feeling in my gut still, when i sit with my old amiga (and 64 for that matter). Still I was totally blown away by some of the stuff elude team showed,have yet to see it on my own baby yet, so I'm getting ready to be awed once more :) and really looking forward to seeing what u pull off next.
Big big thank u's to Elude for delivering and looking forward to the TBL vs Elude battle in the future, interesting times ahead :)

 

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